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No Intelligience Allowed!!!

May 14
Wed 7:00 PM
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 We will be up front. Look for the sign (it still says "Greater Pittsburgh Association of Deists and Agnostics" on it. 

At the suggestion of Lara, we will be discussing the new "documentary" Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, narrated by Ben Stein. It's about some professors who were supposedly kicked out of universities for criticizing evolution and promoting intelligent design. Here's the movie's official site:

http://www.expelledth...

From all I've read, this movie is just horrible, being deceptive about the circumstances of the professors involved, claiming that Darwinism leads to genocide, and that the scientific community is made up of closed-minded, dogmatic elitists. Here's the message Lara sent me:

"I'd like to focus on the Science and Religion angle and also the Hitler and Eugenics angle. I found the statement that the RTB made in regard to the movie quite interesting as well. My idea is to provide those three links as well as the link to the larger site if people wanted to explore more into the movie, its claims, and marketing. (Maybe a link to the blog as well because that shit is upsetting.) The question I want to pose is this: The fact is that this movie is being distributed to more theaters than any other "documentary" in history. (1000 theatres -- that is 250 more than Fahrenheit 911 -- any idea how it is doing at the box office?). What responsibility does that pose to the counter side to educate the public? As atheists, agnostics, deists, etc (SECULAR FREETHINKERS!), should we enter into that territory, or would that hurt the mission of the scientists by feeding the creationist fear that atheists run hard science?? Obviously a bit of information is being disseminated online, but that is only available to those who seek it. When evolutionists are being compared to Hitler, I view that as an attack on rational minds everywhere. So should we sit on our hands and be pissed? Or is this where we take action?"

Lara poses some intriguing questions. The links she referenced can be found here on a site dedicated to critiquing the film:
Expelled Exposed - The Truth Behind the Fiction: http://www.expelledex...
Expelled Exposed - Science and Religion: http://www.expelledex...
Expellled: RTB Response: http://www.reasons.or...
Expelled Exposed- Hitler and Eugenics: http://www.expelledex...

Also check out the blog on the movie's site which has some upsetting comments including the fact that they are showing this to legislators in hopes of getting funding for promoting intelligent design in education.

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  • Kyle Szklenski
    Posted May 10, 2008 8:07 PM
    I'll take a look and see if I can find anything in terms of Expelled. If I can, we could have a little party over here or whatever.
  • Jon
    Posted May 5, 2008 11:12 AM
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  • Jon
    Posted May 5, 2008 11:08 AM
    Jon
    The movie is bombing despite the producer's attempts to raise ratings by paying schools (yes, schools) for students' ticket stubs... I actually hope the movie reaches a much wider audience. From all I've heard, its absurdity is one of the best arguments against Creationism.
  • Andrew Sydlik
    Posted Apr 30, 2008 5:07 PM
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    I'm curious to see the movie, but as Lara pointed out, we wouldn't want our purchases to go toward supporting the movie and upping the attendance #s. Now if anyone can acquire the movie in other ways....
  • George
    Posted Apr 30, 2008 4:55 PM
    Anyone interested in going as a group to see 'Expelled'? This should be my first meetup with this group, looking forward to it. I can't say a definite â??yesâ?? though until after this weekend and plans settle.
  • Andrew Sydlik
    Posted Apr 30, 2008 1:19 PM
    • Organizer
    Brandon's comments made me hear Jane's Addiction's song "Been Caught Stealing" and see Ben Stein in drag. But Christians steal? Surely they keep all the commandments unlike us sinful nonbelievers???
  • Giovanni
    Posted Apr 26, 2008 10:05 AM
    Can we organize an event of deism in New York?I'm waiting for a response.
  • Brandon
    Posted Apr 25, 2008 10:22 PM
    The movie bombed. It only made $3 million, while the producers expected it to make $12 million. Also, Yoko Ono is suing over the film's unauthorized usage of John Lennon's song "Imagine." They've also been accused of stealing some animations used in the film.

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